Senin, 07 Februari 2011

Job Indonesia - BESTIN SERVICES INDONESIA, PT Offer You a Big Opportunity For You To Have a Job as Public Relation

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BESTIN SERVICES INDONESIA, PT is a Human Resources Services Company, in cooperation with one of the famous companies in Indonesia, require the Public Relation of labor. BESTIN SERVICES INDONESIA, PT offer you a big opportunity for you to have a Job, as: Public Relation

The Requirements are:
  • Female, below 25 years old
  • Graduated from college (D3/S1)
  • Having min. 1 year as Marketing and Public Relation
  • Computer literate
  • Excellent communication and interpersonal skill
  • Willing to Work hard and able to work under pressure


If you are encouraged to submit this Job Indonesia listed document (latest photograph, latest resume and CV), send documents to (effective until this week):

PT. Bestin Services Indonesia  (Up. RECRUITMENT)
Ruko Warga Jaya Blok DH No. 6
Jl. Tubagus Angke, Jelambar - Jakarta Barat Telp. 021 - 56944462 Fax 021 - 56942370

Or via email to: hrd@bestin-indonesia.com atau www.bestin-indonesia.com

Indonesia Vacancy - MINNA PADI ASET MANAJEMEN Offering You a Challenge To Have a Career as Analyst

Author: http://id.jobsdb.com

MINNA PADI ASET MANAJEMEN is one of the fast growing companies in Indonesia and is part of a financial  group which has offices at Central Business in Jakarta. In line with expansion  program, MINNA PADI ASET MANAJEMEN seeking qualified candidates to fill the following positions: Analyst

The Requirements are:
  • Min. 3 years experience of Research at Asset Management or Securities.
  • Minimum S1 graduate.
  • Good English Communication skill both verbally and written
  • From respectable background & has good track record.
  • Pleasant personality with good communication and analytical skill.
  • Must be hard Working & possess strong desire to succeed.

Do you fill challenged,guys?? So please send your complete CV+picture if you're really capable for this Indonesia Vacancy, to: career@minnapadi.com


Minggu, 06 Februari 2011

Job Indonesia - DWIBINA PRIMA, PT (BINA SURYA GROUP) is Urgently Needed HRD Staff

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DWIBINA PRIMA, PT (BINA SURYA GROUP) is a private companies that engaged in Building Management, Contractor and Developer. DWIBINA PRIMA, PT (BINA SURYA GROUP) urgently needed you to have a Career, as: HRD Staff


The Requirements are:


     * Male, Age Max. 30 years
     * Education Min. S1 - Psychology
     * Understand the recruitment and training procedures
     * Able to use test kits
     * Thorough, Rapih, and like administrative Work
     * Preference will be given a maximum of 1 year experience (Fresh Graduates are welcome to apply)

    * Mastered with ISO 9001:2008

This Job Indonesia only may for you to apply if you're really have all the requirements, to:


HRD PT. Dwibina Prima
Wisma BSG Lt. 3A
Jl. Abdul Muis No. 40 Jakarta Pusat 10160

E-mail:
hrd.dp@bsg.co.id

Jumat, 04 Februari 2011

Indonesia Vacancy - PT BAYER INDONESIA Offer You Really Big Opportunity To Have a Career as Communication Manager

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Yeah, this offer only for you who really have the best potencial, ability, and personality, guys. Cause what, Bayer HealthCare Pharmaceuticals Indonesia is part of Bayer HealthCare group, a subgroup of Bayer AG.  Bayer HealthCare Pharmaceuticals Indonesia are one of the world’s leading, innovative companies in the healthcare.  Bayer HealthCare Pharmaceuticals Indonesia aim is to discover and manufacture products that will benefit people and improve their quality of life.  Built on the company’s long history of providing medicines that healthcare providers and patients can trust, Bayer is one of the most recognized brands in health care.  In Indonesia, Bayer HealthCare Pharmaceuticals Indonesia are among the top five multinational pharmaceutical company. Bayer HealthCare Pharmaceuticals Indonesia offer you really big opportunity to have a Career, as:

Communication Manager

We are currently looking for a Communication Manager to be based in our head office in Jakarta, Indonesia.  

The Requirements are:

  • Degree in Communication Studies or related field of studies
  • 2 - 4 years experience in communication related activity in PR agency and/or Pharmaceutical company
  • Strong network of media contacts in Indonesia, specifically in healthcare desk
  • Strong organizational skills, able to multi task and highly organized
  • Confident and able to Work with Management and external parties
  • Effective writing, communication and presentation skills both in Bahasa Indonesia and English
  • Experience with successful social media campaign and internal communication is a plus

Ofcourse, this Indonesia Vacancy is really amazing offer, so if you are really have all the requirements and you interest, please send your complete CV+latest picture, to:

PT Bayer Indonesia
Bayer HealthCare Pharmaceuticals
Midplaza I, 14th floor
Jl. Jend. Sudirman kav. 10-11
Jakarta 10220

Attn: Human Resources Department

or email to: meiliza.chandra@bayer.com

Rabu, 26 Januari 2011

Career GRAPHIC EDITOR GRAPHIC EDITOR / GRAPHIC ARTIST

GRAPHIC EDITOR
GRAPHIC EDITOR / GRAPHIC ARTIST

  

  

Recruitment Qualification:

   1. 1. Minimum S1 degree from graphics or similar major
   2. 2. Must be passionate about gadgets and technology in general
   3. 3. Must be passionate about gadgets and technology in general
   4. 4. Good command of computer Mac and PC particulary Adobe programs
   5. 5. Able to work as a team and meet deadlines
   6. 6. Photography and multimedia skill is an advantage
   7. 6. Fresh graduate may apply

    Please include samples of your previous work in JPEG or PDF format along with your complete resume and expected salary to :

    PT. Teknologi Tri Tunggal
    Business Park Kebon Jeruk Blok F2 No. 2
    Jl. Meruya Ilir Raya 88
    Jakarta 11620

    Or simply e-mail to : t3magazine@gmail.com

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Senin, 17 Januari 2011

Careers oppurtunities Human Resource (HR) Officer


Location: Lobam, Bintan (Kepulauan Riau), Indonesia 
Visit our web site at www.escoglobal.com or www.escoindonesia.com for more information.



Human Resource (HR) Officer

Responsibilities:
  • Assist the HCM team in delivering full spectrum of Human Resources services
  • Handle HCM administration work, provide support and advice to employees as required
  • Responsible for updating and maintaining the Employee HCM database
  • Plan, develop, manage and administer training programs for employees
  • Assist in orientation and induction program for new employees
  • Assist in payroll processes

Recruitment  Requirements:
  • At least 1 year experience in HCM, preferably in training
  • Familiar with full spectrum of HCM (training, recruitment, Jamsostek, manpower regulations, etc)
  • Good command in written and spoken English
  • IT savvy and proficient in Microsoft Office applications
  • Meticulous, organized with an eye for details
  • Strong communication and interpersonal skills
  • Pleasant and approachable personality with a positive learning attitude
  • Able to work under pressure and tight deadlines
  • Able to work in Lobam, Bintan, Kepulauan Riau

Interested candidate please send your updated resume and photograph with expected salary to: jobs@escoglobal.com

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Rabu, 12 Januari 2011

Vacancy Sr. System Analyst

BERLIAN SISTEM INFORMASI, PT



BUILD YOUR CAREERS NOW 


We are IT COMPANY (Subsidiary of MITSUBISHI Corp) & PARTNER WITH SAP looking for Best Candidates

Sr. System Analyst 

 

Requirement
  • Bachelor degree in IT, Computer science, MIS, Engineering oar equiv
  • Minimum having 4 years experience IT industry and as system analyst
  • Experience as a programmer in .Net(C#), Asp.Net, VB, SQL server
  • Understanding about automotive and leasing business process are advantages
  • Possess Good Interpersonal, Negotiation and Communication skills.


Special Requirements :
  • English literacy
  • Willing to work under pressure (Tough Environment)


All applications sent by email to
hrd@bsi.co.id not over than 20 January 2011.
Only candidate that strictly match to above requirements will be interviewed.
Please put recent photograph on application.

“A positive attitude can be learnt and developed. It is a matter of choice. You can make the choice, whenever faced with a difficulty to look at it from an optimistic point of view rather than a pessimistic one.”

so dont waste this time to get good employment ( job ). Other fields such as in banking need this job position.

Selasa, 04 Januari 2011

Code Igniter PHP Programmer

ONE ASIA, PT


Get your dreams careers now

ASIA ONE is an Information Technology company focusing on website development, web-based applications, web design, e-commerce, e-marketing, Content Management System, and so forth. Starting from a company with experience in the field of web hosting and web design, we develop more broadly with cost effective web solutions. Objective Our objective is to support activities in starting a business and enlarge the potential in the Internet world through the promotion and effective e-marketing.

 
Code Igniter PHP Programmer




General requirements:

     *
       Minimum graduated from vocational school, preferably S1
     *
       GPA minimum 2.75 (scale of 4)
     *
       Having the ability to work alone or in teams.
     *
       Precedence is based in JAKARTA
     *
       Responsible for the project.
     *
       Easy on the contact / used online.
     *
       More preferred that often do research or experiment with various websites.

Qualifications:
  •        Mastering HTML, CSS, JAVASCRIPT, PHP5, and MySQL.

This is a fulltime position working in the office (Monday - Friday from 9:00 until 18:00) with locations in Jakarta. We also accept fresh graduates or who are in the thesis.




Send a letter of job application, and CV, examples of coding, the name of the website ever made and your transcripts along with passport photo to:


Rabu, 01 Desember 2010

5 Tips on Web Site Building and Web Stats

By Devin Jopp, SCORE COO

 
The most basic Web site services are free services. These services are easy to use, but limited in the amount of space and bandwidth. They typically also place advertisements on your site to offset their cost.

 
The next step up are services that charge a monthly fee. In exchange, you get a greater amount of space, bandwidth and no advertisements. All of the domain registrars like Network Solutions and Go Daddy offer Web development solutions.

 
The next option, building your own Web site, provides the most flexibility. You can either build your own or hire a consultant to do it for you. Once you have selected your domain registrar and hosting company (ISP), you can begin programming your new Web site. Tools like Microsoft Front Page or Macromedia Dreamweaver provide a familiar Windows front-end that automatically generates html code and allows you to click and drag items in order to create your Web site. Or, you can hire a Web design firm to do this for you.

 
 Get bids for Web site development at www.elance.com. Simply post your requirements and wait for the bids to come in, or get estimates from firms in your city.

 
Analyze your Web traffic and track statistics. Google Analytics offers a free web analytic solution. StatCounter is a free package you access by logging in and copying code into your Web site. You can also buy an off-the-shelf package like Webtrends that is installed on the server and tracks critical stats like the number of visitors, highest ranked pages, etc. Many of the site builder tools mentioned earlier also provide options for tracking Web stats.


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5 Tips for Taking Your Small Business Online

  1. Your product line should be able to be delivered economically and conveniently through the mail or over the Internet.
  2. The Web allows you to market to customers outside your geographical location. Your product should appeal to people nation-or-continent-wide.
  3. Compare new “technology” costs to current bricks and mortar costs, e.g.: rent, labor, inventory and printing costs.
  4. Realize that the World Wide Web levels the playing ground—you can look like a big company with a great Web site. 
  5. Draw visitors to your site cheaply. Establish and grow alliances that will hotlink to your site for free.

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Selasa, 30 November 2010

How to Build Strategic International Relationships

by John Astor

Just learning how to shake hands in career world doesn’t make you culturally aware. A few learned copy-cat mannerisms and a couple opening lines will not put the global executive into the good graces of their regional leaders. It used to be fine, considering the small amount of time that leaders spent abroad. But more and more, as we see top-level local management strategies that have transparent relationships with each other for alignment and success, building relationships that are strong and solid are absolutely essential in today’s highly competitive marketplace.

In Japan, during the 1980’s boom years, foreigners were falling over each other to grab some of the success that Japanese businesses had created. Many managers learned a little bit of the language, how to eat soup, etc., but they missed a great opportunity to build real bonds. Unfortunately, those bonds could have also helped the Japanese businesses during the ‘90’s.

Today, we are in the midst of a series of dynamics such as, rising new economies, immediate access to customers and speed decision making, so creating and nurturing long lasting connections is a must. Maya Hu-Chan of the Global Leadership Development Center so correctly states, ‘In my work with multinational corporations, my global clients have often pointed out that building partnerships is one of the most important competencies for global leaders of the future’.

To develop powerful partnerships and prevent problematic situations, integrate these five pieces of advice.
  • Have a real interest in other cultures and learn about them through food, the arts and music, literature and the areas that give uniqueness to their place the human experience.
  • Build partnerships wherever you go with ease. You never force a friendship. You develop it. Become an open access point of assistance to your host reports, superiors and especially those horizontally. Encourage others to do the same.
  • Listen, Listen, Listen! This may be one of the great challenges for human beings, but it is an essential skill for trust. Don’t just listen with your ears, but apprehend the individual with all of your faculties. Go beyond their special behaviors and reach for what they are trying to communicate.
  • Never be patronizing. This may be very difficult for some cultures that have been taught they are the best. Be careful not to appear paternal or on a higher level than other people. Also pay close attention to how you phrase comments about their culture. This is also true for spouses of expatriates.
  • Get out of your shell. The higher you go up in an organization, the more insulated you become. Mingle with different people with different interests and you will be well prepared to meet the exciting challenges of interacting with all types of personalities from all over the world.

By putting these five points into action will give you a basis for working in all environments and with all cultures. Of course, each culture has unique aspects that give them their own perspectives on business and life, and we are all unique individuals with unique behaviors, but having a real sense of how we can make deeper connections profoundly helps us move forward together.
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Jumat, 19 November 2010

GE Buys 25,000 Electric Cars To Kick-Start Market !!!

Author: bbc.co.uk

Lowongan Kerja - It hopes that its purchase of 25,000 electric vehicles will drive the development of a network of charging stations, and other related products, which it produces.

Its first order is for 12,000 Chevrolet Volts, which will start to roll off GM's production lines this month.

GE will use them as company cars and lease them to corporate customers.

It intends to buy the 25,000 cars by 2015. It will use some of them in its own fleet.
The rest will go into its Capital Fleet Services business, which leases cars to corporate customers.

GM said it wanted to "lead wide-scale electric adoption and generate growth for its businesses".

GE's Jeff Immelt said he hope the purchase would "move electric vehicles from anticipation to action".

It predicts that the nascent electric vehicle market could be worth $500m (£310m; 366m euros) in revenue to GM over the next three years.

General Motors Getting Ready For Profitable Future

Author: bbc.co.uk


Job Indonesia - A year-and-a-half after the US automotive giant General Motors (GM) filled for bankruptcy protection, the Cadillac factory in Lansing, Michigan, is still churning out cars. - Job Vacancy

The Grand River Assembly, which lies about 90 miles west of Detroit, is gearing up production, hiring hundreds of new workers and getting ready to start producing a Cadillac that will be both smaller and much less thirsty than those it used to make.

Lowongan Kerja - The model is a powerful symbol of a new beginning for the bruised carmaker after last year's $50bn - £31bn at current exchange rates - bail-out by the US taxpayer.

But symbolism will not do for GM's new chief executive Dan Akerson, a former telecoms executive and naval officer known for his keen, at times even combative, focus on figures.

They are beginning to look impressive. GM made $2bn net profits during the July to September quarter, a dramatic turnaround from a near-$1bn loss during the same period a year earlier.

"The results of the third quarter clearly point to the amount of progress that GM has made," says Mr Akerson, who also has a background in private equity investment.

With sales remaining strong during the last three months of the year, GM expects to make a profit for the year as a whole.

"Although we're a different company, it's worth noting that last time GM reported a profitable year was 1994," Mr Akerson says.

Making better cars
Dan Akerson, chief executive, General Motors Mr Akerson is known as a combative executive who focuses closely on financial figures
With Mr Akerson at the helm, GM is getting ready for the second leg of a long and painful journey.

The first, which was run by his predecessors Fritz Henderson and Ed Whitacre, was all about pushing through a harsh restructuring, all under the watchful eye of a board of directors representing the US government's 61% stake in the group.
The second phase of GM's revival is about to start as the government and its co-owners - the Canadian government and the union - get ready to pass majority control of the company back to private investors.

And it is clear that this phase will have to be product-led.

In recent years, the quality of many of the models made by GM has fallen short of the quality products delivered by many of its rivals, and so the company reputation has suffered a great deal.

Mr Akerson is eager to fix that.

He knows well that building quality cars can be costly, so this year GM has spent close to $5bn on capital expenditure.

Next year, and in the years ahead, Mr Akerson is expected to spend even more - and he is eager to pass on the message.

"We've just started doing a better job in marketing our brands to consumers," he says.

International challenge
But making better cars will not be enough without further changes to GM's corporate culture, as well as a bolstering of morale in a company that has seen tens of thousands of jobs go in a matter of months.
Improved financial risk management is also vital, according to Mr Akerson, who has been pushing for closer monitoring of what profit margins different units within the firm deliver, as well as for a more deliberate approach to currency risk.
And of course, Mr Akerson says, "we continue to be vigilant in reducing cost".
But the biggest challenge will be to rebuild relations with both customers and government officials, workers and dealers, across the pond.
This is particularly important in Germany, the largest car market in Europe, where deep wounds were inflicted last year during lengthy talks with both the unions and the government.
Mr Akerson is fully aware of what needs to be done. "We know we have much work to do. We still have to fix Europe," he says.
Private investors, preparing to buy GM shares, will hope he also knows how to do it.

GM Shares Jump After Record Public Offering

Author: bbc.co.uk


Indonesia Job - Shares in General Motors (GM) have risen 3.6% on the first day of trading following the carmaker's record public share offering.

Job Indonesia - Shares closed at $34.19 in New York from a start of $33, although they did reach a high of $35.60 during the day. - Job Vacancy

GM raised $20.1bn through its offering, making it the largest share sale in the US to date.

President Barack Obama said the firm was on track to recover the government money spent on bailing it out.

The amount raised could rise to a world record $23.1bn if underwriters exercise an option to sell more shares.

Surprisingly strong investor demand had allowed the carmaker to lift the price of the shares on offer to $33 from the $26 it had initially hoped for.

GM is returning to the market after a $50bn government bail-out.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average closed up 173 points at 11,183, a rise of 1.6%.
Mr Obama said: "Today, one of the toughest tales of the recession took another big step toward becoming a success story.

"American taxpayers are now positioned to recover more than my administration invested in GM, and that's a good thing."

Canada, which pumped in $10bn and owns 12% of the stock, said it too would seek to recover some of its investment by selling part of its stake.

Different ballpark
 
The day's trading began on Wall Street when GM chief executive Dan Akerson rang the opening bell on the New York Stock Exchange.
Continue reading the main story

Analysis

This is a very bright start.
The share offering is more ambitious than anyone expected, and the demand for stock seems overwhelming.
Not bad for a company that almost went bankrupt 18 months ago.
But there's still a long way to go if the taxpayers are to get all their money back. The bailout cost them $50bn.
It's thought the government will have to sell its remaining stock at around $50 a share for several years to recoup its investment.
But the bailout was never only about GM. The Obama administration argued that the entire American car industry, with all its associated businesses, was at stake.
So far, the evidence suggests that something is working.
A general revival does seem to be under way, at least in terms of the profitability and competitiveness of the companies involved.
But the cost has been huge: tens of thousands of workers were laid off, plants closed, familiar brands ditched and auto dealers told to look for other work.
And the bailout itself remains hugely controversial, with the administration's critics still seeing it as an unwarranted intrusion of big government into the free market.
It's clearly in the interests of both GM and the White House for the nickname "Government Motors" to become a thing of the past.
"There's a lot of work to do, but today is the beginning of the new company," said Mark Reuss, GM's North American president.
Government officials said the company's strong market debut showed they had made the right choice in rescuing the carmaker.
"This is a bit better than people had been projecting. As to a year ago, it's not even in the same ballpark," Ron Bloom, the Treasury official in charge of the GM investment told Reuters.
"A year ago, people said, 'You have no exit, you have no strategy. This company is not fixed'."
The carmaker has raised $20.1bn from the sale of the shares. However, an over-allotment option, which will be settled over the next 30 days, would add $3bn to that figure, taking GM beyond the $22.1bn raised by the Agricultural Bank of China's market launch.
The share sale, known as an initial public offering (IPO), will allow the US government reduce its current 61% stake in the company to as low as 33%.
GM returned to profit this year for the first time since 2004. The company made $5bn during the first nine months of this year.
Scott Painter from the US car comparison site Truecar.com believes the IPO is a sign of how well the economic recovery is going.
"I think GM having a strong IPO and pricing it at the high end of the range certainly speaks well of America and confidence in America, and GM is a really good indicator of everything that we've been through over the last couple of years and how the recovery is working out," he said.

Why 'Yes' is so hard for the Irish

Author: bbc.co.uk

Job Indonesia - In a radio interview, the Governor of the Bank of Ireland Patrick Honohan confirmed what most people expected - that some kind of bail-out for Ireland seems to be on the way. They may dress it up as a loan for the banks but it will involve tens of billions of euros. Up until the governor's comments, the Irish government was sticking to its line that it did not need rescuing. - Job Vacancy

Lowongan Kerja - And indeed even after the governor had spoken, Irish Finance Minister Brian Lenihan said that his country was not yet at the point of taking a substantial international loan.

Europe's crisis managers, who have been a busy bunch this year, had not envisaged a situation where a country did not want to be bailed out. Quite the opposite. In setting up various rescue mechanisms they feared the profligate, or those who ran up bad debts, would beat a path to their door.

So when last weekend various officials - some close to the European Central Bank - began briefing that it was only a matter of time before Ireland was bailed out, they did not expect such stout resistance from Dublin.

So why did Ireland try and hold out?

The Irish government is fragile. It faces a difficult by-election. Its hold on power is slight. A bail-out, however dressed up, is a humiliation. It is a judgment on the way the government has run the country.
There is a stigma to being rescued. The image of the Celtic Tiger has long disappeared but the Irish still cherish the memory. For some years they had the fastest-growing country in Europe. To be bailed out would wound Irish pride.

Then there are conditions. One of the reasons that Ireland did so well was inward investment - particularly from the US. Large multinational companies were attracted to Ireland by a corporate tax rate of 12.5%. Others in Europe - including the French and Germans - dislike the tax. They believe it gives Ireland an unfair advantage.
Many government officials in Ireland fear that one condition of a rescue would be to give up their low corporate tax rate. A few days ago, Ireland's Europe Minister, Dick Roche, bridled at the very suggestion. "We are in charge of our own taxes," he said. We shall see what the terms of any loan are.
European Commissioner for the Economy Olli Rehn (archive 
image)
Then there is the not-so-little matter of sovereignty. Already Irish commentators have focused on the EU Economics Commissioner, Ollie Rehn. When they were not reporting on his visit to an expensive restaurant, they asked: "Is he the most important man in Ireland?" Is this unelected official essentially running the country, was the tone of some of the comment.

There are stirrings of unease here at what Ireland may be giving away. When it was announced that a team of experts from the EU, the IMF and the ECB were coming to Dublin, the opposition leader referred to them as "officials arriving to dictate terms of a bail-out to the government".

Ireland for a long period was enthusiastically European. Many smart people headed to Brussels. They embraced the European identity as a way of distancing themselves from their neighbour Britain. They took great satisfaction in seeing Irish companies buying up big hotels in London.

So there is foreboding as to what a bail-out would signify. One Irish commentator wrote today: "Having obtained our political independence from Britain to be the masters of our own affairs, we have now surrendered our sovereignty to the European Commission."

Brian Lenihan has defended the increasing influence of the officials from Brussels with references to European solidarity. "We share our sovereignty with Europe in relation to currency," he said. "We pool our sovereignty in this area, so if you're pooling your sovereignty, you have to act with your partners in whatever steps you take." Yesterday he spoke of a "very supportive reaction from the wider European family".

What the Irish government is hoping for - if the Bank governor is right - is a narrow deal to restore the liquidity of its banks so they can borrow more easily. That would be less of a humiliation.


It should not be forgotten that when Irish voters were first given a say on what became the Lisbon Treaty they voted "No". Irish independence is both young and keenly felt.

So if the country is forced to accept a full bail-out, questions will be asked about the future. Will Ireland ever regain control over its budget and its economy?
And that is a question being asked not just on the streets of Dublin but in Athens, Lisbon and Madrid.

Ian Martin, writing in the Wall Street Journal observed: "A new model of government without direct accountability to voters is being constructed."
That, of course, is the long-term implication of this crisis. Presuming that the eurozone does not fracture, its flaws are being used to give the European Commission much greater powers of scrutiny and economic management. And this may go further. While everyone focuses on Ireland, Greece and Portugal, the gap between these economies and Germany only widens. The price of saving the euro may be that the stronger countries bail out the weaker - precisely what German voters were told would never happen.

The "ever closer union" that some dream of may be delivered on the back of a battered currency.